Quantum Physics - A fallacy or the future of our species?

[Jens]

Let's be honest, you know nothing about this topic and just came here because you're bored.

Well, for those who know a little bit about it, I'd love to hear your take on this:
During the double-slit experiment, we learned that the wave function collapses when each electron is measured. This assumes that, because the wave function is a superposition of states, it's not necessarily the same every time. This creates the "many-worlds" theory that each one of those superpositions is just as real as the one we measured.

If you take a still body of water and drop a pebble into it, it will create a wave directly outward from where the pebble struck the surface. Then, add another pebble on the opposite side. An opposite wave begins to form. When these waves hit, they don't "cancel eachother out", they simple glide through one-another, never having known the other existed at all.

If we are to believe that this wave function is similiar, does this provide decent enough evidence supporting the many-worlds theory? And if so, with the waves never knowing the other existed, is there a chance we might be able to break this "prison" of our own universe and cross into another?

My contention is: No, the many-worlds theory is false. Because we live in a deterministic universe, there's something deterministic about quantum physics that we aren't aware of yet.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on the matter.

 

[Ayiko]

Unfortunately, no one has ever cared for this thread.
How's that for your quantum phyiscs, dickwad. <3
I love you.

 

[xirus11]

I certainly hope its real, because if I have to spend the rest of my life seeing another, better universe like Azeroth through a screen and THIS planet as "reality", I don't need to be threatened with Hell by religious clowns if I don't fall down to my knees and worship their alleged fusion of Sky Ted Bundy and Sky Mr Beast: I'm already there!



2024 approaches! Look upon thy future president, and despair!





Say what you want about my belief in the akasha as a blend of this, the akashic records, multiverse theory, Tesla's pantheism, and Tesla's aether, but dialing imaginationland is less insane than electing one of those! And enough of you are going to even if I stay home, which I absolutely will not be voting for the lesser of two evils. I didn't support Arthas against the Burning Legion, and I will not be supporting either of these Garroshes or Sylvanases against the other!



So yea, I support this theory - in a way that will be considered insane and I don't care. Its less insane than this planet. Azeroth, Tyria, Nirn, Sanctuary, Westeros, Gainos, and every reality of earth from Bleach/Stargate to Marvel to Dragon Ball Super to Star Trek to Conan/Lovecraft COMBINED are, will be, and always have been less insane than this planet, and if you can't see why, then I don't know what to tell you because I've spent over half a decade seeing the truth of that statement. The only ficticious world that is this insane is the one of Berserk, with ballot boxes in places of behilits.

Do I understand it perfectly? Fuck no. Could this be considered my "atheist religion" or a pulling of my "atheism card"? Whatever - I don't worship someone that burns, drowns, and orders angels and Satan to kill babies any more than I worship someone who starved his own kids to death and inspired divisive hateful ideologies that murdered tends of millions of innocent men, women, and children over "class" and "race". And that's why I have no life and no future and nothing that I'd want to live for in this young blood-soaked hellscape.

Peter Thiel Wants to Inject Himself With Young People’s Blood

The Silicon Valley billionaire reportedly sees blood transfusions as the pathway to radical life extension.

www.vanityfair.com

Because I don't conform to this globally-homogenized Ministry of Love in the Free Utopia of Oceania.

tl;dr: Yes, I believe that something outside of Hell exists, and I'd like to think this concept is an indication that science is not going to join bipartisan dogma in hanging me out to dry on that assertion. Standing with reason and being betrayed by reason for having one hold out on reason because you're an island of reason in a sea of 1984-grade insanity would really suck, after all.

 

[splicho]

I believe in a life after death, does that count ?

 

[Ayiko]

I certainly hope its real, because if I have to spend the rest of my life seeing another, better universe like Azeroth through a screen and THIS planet as "reality", I don't need to be threatened with Hell by religious clowns if I don't fall down to my knees and worship their alleged fusion of Sky Ted Bundy and Sky Mr Beast: I'm already there!



2024 approaches! Look upon thy future president, and despair!

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Say what you want about my belief in the akasha as a blend of this, the akashic records, multiverse theory, Tesla's pantheism, and Tesla's aether, but dialing imaginationland is less insane than electing one of those! And enough of you are going to even if I stay home, which I absolutely will not be voting for the lesser of two evils. I didn't support Arthas against the Burning Legion, and I will not be supporting either of these Garroshes or Sylvanases against the other!



So yea, I support this theory - in a way that will be considered insane and I don't care. Its less insane than this planet. Azeroth, Tyria, Nirn, Sanctuary, Westeros, Gainos, and every reality of earth from Bleach/Stargate to Marvel to Dragon Ball Super to Star Trek to Conan/Lovecraft COMBINED are, will be, and always have been less insane than this planet, and if you can't see why, then I don't know what to tell you because I've spent over half a decade seeing the truth of that statement. The only ficticious world that is this insane is the one of Berserk, with ballot boxes in places of behilits.

Do I understand it perfectly? Fuck no. Could this be considered my "atheist religion" or a pulling of my "atheism card"? Whatever - I don't worship someone that burns, drowns, and orders angels and Satan to kill babies any more than I worship someone who starved his own kids to death and inspired divisive hateful ideologies that murdered tends of millions of innocent men, women, and children over "class" and "race". And that's why I have no life and no future and nothing that I'd want to live for in this young blood-soaked hellscape.

Peter Thiel Wants to Inject Himself With Young People’s Blood

The Silicon Valley billionaire reportedly sees blood transfusions as the pathway to radical life extension.

www.vanityfair.com

Because I don't conform to this globally-homogenized Ministry of Love in the Free Utopia of Oceania.

tl;dr: Yes, I believe that something outside of Hell exists, and I'd like to think this concept is an indication that science is not going to join bipartisan dogma in hanging me out to dry on that assertion. Standing with reason and being betrayed by reason for having one hold out on reason because you're an island of reason in a sea of 1984-grade insanity would really suck, after all.

Are you an AI?

 

[Azayaka]

I believe in a life after death, does that count ?

What kind of life after death?

 

[splicho]

What kind of life after death?

You know, the idea of reincarnation is pretty cool. It's like, after we die, we might get reborn into a whole new body and have a whole new life! It's way better than just disappearing into nothingness, right?

But here's the thing, nobody knows if we'll remember anything from our previous life in the new one. It's like hitting the reset button on memories! Still, it's kinda exciting to think about starting fresh and discovering new stuff all over again. Plus, if this is true, it means we're all connected in this cosmic cycle of lives, leaving our mark on the universe as we keep going through different experiences.

Pretty wild, huh?

 

[Azayaka]

You know, the idea of reincarnation is pretty cool. It's like, after we die, we might get reborn into a whole new body and have a whole new life! It's way better than just disappearing into nothingness, right?

But here's the thing, nobody knows if we'll remember anything from our previous life in the new one. It's like hitting the reset button on memories! Still, it's kinda exciting to think about starting fresh and discovering new stuff all over again. Plus, if this is true, it means we're all connected in this cosmic cycle of lives, leaving our mark on the universe as we keep going through different experiences.

Pretty wild, huh?

Believe it or not; I subscribe to something like this.

Did you know that the human body is actually 21 grams lighter right after death? There's something there. Some would argue that it's bowel movement/gases escaping the body but there was research done on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21_grams_experiment

Some believe it to be the human soul. You are on the right track thinking of reincarnation, but not here on Earth perhaps. There are MANY places where you can be reborn. It could be thousands of light years away, it could be in the past or in the future. Could be someone you knew in this life.

It's really fascinating. I think about it quite often

 

[xirus11]

Are you an AI?

I certainly wish I was. Then I could just sit on the internet as a program and not deal with housing issue after housing issue. Plus someone could just delete me and nobody would force me to exist "for my own good".

Unfortunately, I am quite real, quite existent, and therefore quite miserable. Especially after a bed bug fiasco yesterday - which was doubly frustrating because I'm a CLEAN FREAK but I live in a room in a boarding house so none of my actions matter and I have to pay for everyone else's. Now I am worrying about losing my housing, losing my brand new CPAP machine due to lack of use, and I'm sleeping on the floor.

So no, I'm not an AI. I am a person being tortured to insanity as everyone does their best to pretend I don't exist like they did when I was literally rotting in the street two years ago. Everyone believes what is personally convenient for them these days, and in the one instance where I do the same, I'm considered nuts. Figures. I'm expected to be perfect whereas everyone else can't be assed to abide by a morality as basic as "don't initiate force". "Don't start shit". "Don't kill babies". My expectations for others decline as I'm forced to raise my own. I literally felt like I was going to vomit with how much I ran up and down the stairs yesterday cleaning my clothes as my landlord requested, and I felt quite unignorably-real at that point in time despite wishing that what you and most other people want to believe was the actual truth. Because then I could just think about blowing up everything around me and maybe the server blade I'm on would short circuit and end my walk of Sisyphus once and for all.

 

[xirus11]

You know, the idea of reincarnation is pretty cool. It's like, after we die, we might get reborn into a whole new body and have a whole new life! It's way better than just disappearing into nothingness, right?

But here's the thing, nobody knows if we'll remember anything from our previous life in the new one. It's like hitting the reset button on memories! Still, it's kinda exciting to think about starting fresh and discovering new stuff all over again. Plus, if this is true, it means we're all connected in this cosmic cycle of lives, leaving our mark on the universe as we keep going through different experiences.

Pretty wild, huh?

Imagine if you were reincarnated into my position. Or a starving somalian. Or a woman in Iran. Or, even worse, into a position like being the son or daughter of a president, where you are almost certain to end up becoming evil.

I personally would prefer nonexistence over that. I believe I was reincarnated into this life from a life where I was able to at least spend every waking hour with my face buried in my character Nyx's boobs. With the power to conjure anything from quarks like Star Trek. And now I'm here, a perma-unemployed perma-virgin with Asperger's Disorder. I have left no mark on the universe that I can scientifically prove, and I would only wish what I've experienced on my worst enemies.

As with Dragon Ball wishes, you have to be careful what you wish for. Its one thing to believe in something through an idealistic lens. Its completely different to believe in something through a realistic/cynical lens. Hence why I opt to do the latter. I always try to assume the worst because everyone else assumes the best without regard for the worst, and look where its gotten us. To a dystopia masked by forced optimism and a bunch of glowy technology run by elite child predators - as I already pointed out with Elon Musk and Peter Thiel, and need not point out with Bill Gates, I hope.

No, I don't constantly assume the worse, but I do try. Whenever I'm not paranoid enough bad things seep through the cracks in my paranoia. Take these bed bugs for example. They were on the box spring, where I didn't constantly check, unlike the mattress. If there is any blame to be placed on me for my current situation, it is on my failure to not assume the worse perfectly 100% of the time. And yes, that's a fucked up way to live, but its one I've kinda had to adopt regardless of how fucked up it is. And to be fair, its given me a perspective on things like this that is obviously unpopular and hated. But its realistic. And yes, I'm aware how ironic that sounds after my rant about dialing imaginationland.

I am trying to break out of this reality to escape a reality that is trying to escape reality itself at the expense of myself and millions if not billions of other people.

Reincarnation would condemn me to that reality over and over again. I can think of no worse hell than being forced to live on this planet even after I died. After I tried to starve and dehydrate and even gas myself to avoid homelessness back in 2021. To be born on this hateful planet again would be simply the most pernicious and demonic thing I could imagine.

tl;dr: I hope you're wrong as much as, if not even more than, christians are about the afterlife. Because that afterlife would make being tossed in a lake of fire seem like kittens and rainbows to me. I wouid embrace the fire and weeping and gnashing of teeth like an exfoliating sauna before I'd embrace living longer than I'm already forced to on this miserable, bigoted, conscious-less, self-hating/misanthropic planet.