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I know this may seem like a stupid question, but just look at a map and you'll see why it isn't.
Winterspring is SOUTH of TELDRASSIL, and BELOW the TEMPERATE climate of the SUMMIT of Mount Hyjal. I read nothing on the wiki about Arthas having changed the climate - that is how it "always was", apparently, and while the invasion of Mount Hyjal in the Third War was a swarm of demons crawling up the mountain, the primary bases and invasion points were Felwood and Eastern Ashenvale/Southern(fiery) Winterspring.
There is no logical reason I could find that its cold! What's worse, the wiki - Wowpedia, which cites all official lore sources - basically says "of course it should be cold!" because of its location. And yes, that WOULD be true IF the top of Mount Hyjal was "naturally" like Mount Neverest(it isn't - in fact not even before the Sundering, otherwise Illidan not only would've been dumping his vials in a GLACIER instead of a LAKE but said lake wouldn't have been an old Night Elf shrine - it would've just been an ordinary lake on a mountain with no history to them. It was NEVER consistently Winterspring-level cold or worse there!), and if *deep breath* Bloodmyst and Azuremyst Isles, Darkshore, Teldrassil, Moonglade, Felwood, Tirisfal Glades, The Plaguelands, and Quel'Thalas ALL look like Borean Tundra AT LEAST. To be fair, everything in Eastern Kingdoms could be the consequence of some current as is the case with Great Britain not looking like the Hudson Bay. That doesn't explain the rest!
And yes, it could be frost elementals, as is the case with Frostfire Ridge, but while the lore certainly shows the presence of frost elementals, it never goes into them being SOOO concentrated in the area to the point of turning what should be a cross between Felwood and Mount Hyjal's Summit into A STAND-IN FOR DRAGONBLIGHT IN NAXRAMMAS TRAILERS AND PORTALS as much as the lore does in Frostfire Ridge, which is quite ironic considering WARLORDS OF DRAENOR did a better job establishing lore than CLASSIC in the case of WINTERSPRING.
And, also, yes, they are both Blue Dragonflight HQ, but there is no reason given for Blue Dragonflight members necessarily having an affinity for cold places, nor is it shown that they actually do, especially since Legion released. I never played "Dragonflight" so I can't speak to that, but Coldarra and Winterspring being cold and both blue dragonflight places could simply be a coincidence, especially since the "pattern" only repeats TWICE as far as I know.
Which all begs the question - WHY IS WINTERSPRING COLD?!?!?! Don't get me wrong, I like the cold. Its one of the BIG reasons why WotLK is my favorite WoW expansions. I just would like to know WHY its cold! It doesn't make any sense! Why is there this zone-sized random pile of snow in the middle of a temperate forest in summer time! At least with Dun Morogh there isn't a giant grass and tree-covered summit towering over Ironforge! Its a general rule followed in almost every single zone in WoW with the exception of TWO - Frostfire Ridge and Gorgrond and Winterspring and Mount Hyjal up through Battle for Azerpth that higher = colder and lower = warmer! Icecrown and Sholazar! Kun-Lai and Jade Forest! Wetlands and Dun Morogh! Hillsbrad and Alterac! Val'sharah and Highmountain! Boralus and the mountains in Tiragarde Sound! WINTERSPRING AND FELWOOD!
Mountains look like THIS:
NOT THIS:
THAT'S WHAT MOUNT HYJAL IS COVERED IN! ROOM TEMPERATURE ORGANIC MATTER > BELOW FREEZING ORGANINC MATTER > ROOM TEMPERATURE ORGANIC MATTER! ITS AN ECOLOGICAL ICE CREAM CONE WITH A CHERRY ON TOP! MOUNTAINS DON'T HAVE THOSE CHERRIES!!! THERE ARE DEAD BODIES OF CLIMBERS ON MOUNT EVEREST THAT STAND AS TESTAMENT TO THAT FACT!
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No jokes about Archimonde trying to pop Hyjal's cherry, please...
Edit: Candy Mountain - where Archimonde lost a kidney:
Winterspring is SOUTH of TELDRASSIL, and BELOW the TEMPERATE climate of the SUMMIT of Mount Hyjal. I read nothing on the wiki about Arthas having changed the climate - that is how it "always was", apparently, and while the invasion of Mount Hyjal in the Third War was a swarm of demons crawling up the mountain, the primary bases and invasion points were Felwood and Eastern Ashenvale/Southern(fiery) Winterspring.
There is no logical reason I could find that its cold! What's worse, the wiki - Wowpedia, which cites all official lore sources - basically says "of course it should be cold!" because of its location. And yes, that WOULD be true IF the top of Mount Hyjal was "naturally" like Mount Neverest(it isn't - in fact not even before the Sundering, otherwise Illidan not only would've been dumping his vials in a GLACIER instead of a LAKE but said lake wouldn't have been an old Night Elf shrine - it would've just been an ordinary lake on a mountain with no history to them. It was NEVER consistently Winterspring-level cold or worse there!), and if *deep breath* Bloodmyst and Azuremyst Isles, Darkshore, Teldrassil, Moonglade, Felwood, Tirisfal Glades, The Plaguelands, and Quel'Thalas ALL look like Borean Tundra AT LEAST. To be fair, everything in Eastern Kingdoms could be the consequence of some current as is the case with Great Britain not looking like the Hudson Bay. That doesn't explain the rest!
And yes, it could be frost elementals, as is the case with Frostfire Ridge, but while the lore certainly shows the presence of frost elementals, it never goes into them being SOOO concentrated in the area to the point of turning what should be a cross between Felwood and Mount Hyjal's Summit into A STAND-IN FOR DRAGONBLIGHT IN NAXRAMMAS TRAILERS AND PORTALS as much as the lore does in Frostfire Ridge, which is quite ironic considering WARLORDS OF DRAENOR did a better job establishing lore than CLASSIC in the case of WINTERSPRING.
And, also, yes, they are both Blue Dragonflight HQ, but there is no reason given for Blue Dragonflight members necessarily having an affinity for cold places, nor is it shown that they actually do, especially since Legion released. I never played "Dragonflight" so I can't speak to that, but Coldarra and Winterspring being cold and both blue dragonflight places could simply be a coincidence, especially since the "pattern" only repeats TWICE as far as I know.
Which all begs the question - WHY IS WINTERSPRING COLD?!?!?! Don't get me wrong, I like the cold. Its one of the BIG reasons why WotLK is my favorite WoW expansions. I just would like to know WHY its cold! It doesn't make any sense! Why is there this zone-sized random pile of snow in the middle of a temperate forest in summer time! At least with Dun Morogh there isn't a giant grass and tree-covered summit towering over Ironforge! Its a general rule followed in almost every single zone in WoW with the exception of TWO - Frostfire Ridge and Gorgrond and Winterspring and Mount Hyjal up through Battle for Azerpth that higher = colder and lower = warmer! Icecrown and Sholazar! Kun-Lai and Jade Forest! Wetlands and Dun Morogh! Hillsbrad and Alterac! Val'sharah and Highmountain! Boralus and the mountains in Tiragarde Sound! WINTERSPRING AND FELWOOD!
Mountains look like THIS:
NOT THIS:
THAT'S WHAT MOUNT HYJAL IS COVERED IN! ROOM TEMPERATURE ORGANIC MATTER > BELOW FREEZING ORGANINC MATTER > ROOM TEMPERATURE ORGANIC MATTER! ITS AN ECOLOGICAL ICE CREAM CONE WITH A CHERRY ON TOP! MOUNTAINS DON'T HAVE THOSE CHERRIES!!! THERE ARE DEAD BODIES OF CLIMBERS ON MOUNT EVEREST THAT STAND AS TESTAMENT TO THAT FACT!
...
No jokes about Archimonde trying to pop Hyjal's cherry, please...
Edit: Candy Mountain - where Archimonde lost a kidney:
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